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Gospel TopicsThe Prophet Will Never Lead Us Astray“In the Catholic church everyone says the pope is infallible but nobody believes it; and in the Mormon church everybody says the prophet is fallible but nobody believes it.” - Old Mormon JokeWhere did we get the idea that a prophet will never lead the people astray? The idea is not supported from the Scriptures
Mosiah 15:13 Yea, and are not the prophets, every one that has opened his mouth to prophesy, that has not fallen into transgression, I mean all the holy prophets ever since the world began? I say unto you that they are his seed.
“And behold, how oft you have
transgressed the commandments and the laws of God, and have gone
on in the persuasions of men. For, behold, you should not have
feared man more than God. Although men set at naught the counsels
of God, and despise his word– Yet you should have been faithful;
and he would have extended his arm and supported you against all
the fiery darts of the adversary; and he would have been with you
in every time of trouble.” (D&C 3:6-8.)
“Behold, I do not say that you shall
not show it unto the righteous; But as you cannot always judge the
righteous, or as you cannot always tell the wicked from the
righteous, therefore I say unto you, hold your peace until I shall
see fit to make all things known unto the world concerning the
matter.” (D&C 10: 36-37.)
"There
is not any person belonging to the church who is exempt from this
council of the church. And
inasmuch as a President of the High Priesthood shall transgress,
he shall be had in remembrance before the common council of the
church, who shall be assisted by twelve counselors of the High
Priesthood; And their
decision upon his head shall be an end of controversy concerning
him. Thus, none shall
be exempted from the justice and the laws of God, that all things
may be done in order and in
solemnity before him, according to truth and righteousness."
(D&C 107:81-84)
"O Lord, I have trusted in
thee, and I will trust in thee forever. I will not put my trust in
the arm of flesh; for I know that cursed is he that
putteth his trust in the arm of flesh. Yea, cursed is
he that putteth his trust in man or maketh flesh his arm." (2
Nephi 4:34)
"Cursed is he that putteth his trust in man, or maketh flesh his arm, or shall hearken unto the precepts of men, save their precepts shall be given by the power of the Holy Ghost." (2 Nephi 28:31) "Thus saith the Lord; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the Lord." (Jeremiah 17:5) "The weak things of the world shall come forth and break down the mighty and strong ones, that man should not counsel his fellow man, neither trust in the arm of flesh—" (D&C 1:19) Statements from LDS LeadersJoseph SmithJoseph
warned that, "they were depending on the Prophet, hence were
darkened in their minds, in consequence of neglecting the
duties devolving upon themselves…” (The Teachings of the Prophet
Joseph Smith,
pg. 237-238).
“We have heard men who hold the priesthood remark that they would do anything they were told to do by those who preside over them even if they knew it was wrong; but such obedience is worse than folly to us; it is slavery in the extreme; and the man who would thus willingly degrade himself, should not claim a rank among intelligent beings, until he turns from his folly. A man of God would despise the idea. Others, in the extreme exercise of their almighty authority have taught that such obedience was necessary, and that no matter what the saints were told to do by their presidents, they should do it without any questions. When Elders of Israel will so far indulge in these extreme notions of obedience as to teach them to the people, it is generally because they have it in their hearts to do wrong themselves" ( Brigham Young “What
a pity it would be, if we were led by one man to utter
destruction! Are you afraid of this? I am more afraid that
this people have so much confidence in their leaders that they
will not inquire for themselves of God whether they are led by
him. I am fearful they settle down in a state of blind
self-security, trusting their eternal destiny in the hands of
their leaders with a reckless confidence that in itself would
thwart the purposes of God in their salvation, and weaken the
influence they could give to their leaders, did they know for
themselves, by the revelations of Jesus, that they are led in
the right way...” (Journal of Discourses, v. 9, p. 150).
“I
told the people that if they would not believe the revelations
that God had given, He would suffer the devil to give
revelations that they – priest and people – would follow
after. Have I seen this fulfilled? I have.
“I told the people that as true as God lived, if they would not have truth, they would have error sent unto them and they would believe it" (Brigham Young, Deseret News, June 8, 1873). "The Lord Almighty leads this Church, and he will never suffer you to be led astray if you are found doing your duty." (Journal of Discourses, v. 9, p. 289) George Q. Cannon
“Do not, brethren, put your trust in a man though he be a
bishop, an apostle, or a president. If you do, they will fail
you at some time or place; they will do wrong or seem to, and
your support be gone...” (Millennial
Star, vol. 53, pg. 658-659).
What is the origin of: "the prophet will never lead us astray"?Wilford Woodruff preached strongly that they church would never give up polygamy.“If we were to do away with
polygamy, it would only be one feather in the bird, one ordinance
in the Church and kingdom. Do away with that, them we must do away
with prophets and Apostles, with revelation and the gifts and
graces of the Gospel, and finally give up our religion altogether
and turn sectarians and do as the world does, then all would be
right. We just can’t do that, for God has commanded us to build up
His kingdom and to bear our testimony to the nations of the earth,
and we are going to do it, come life or come death. He has told us
to do thus, and we shall obey Him in days to come as we have in
days past.” (Journal of
Discourses, v. 13,p. 166)
“We will not end the practice of plural marriage until the coming of the Son of Man.” (Journal of John Henry Smith, 21 May 1888) Dec. 20, 1888 – Wilford Woodruff tells Twelve, “The Lord never will give a revelation to abandon plural marriage.” Since he had made such strong statements, how was Wilford going to get the church to accept the idea that he had been wrong or that things had changed. He was faced with the dilemma of how to reconcile his previous words in the minds of the Saints. So he basically told them to just trust him. The Lord will never permit me or any
other man who stands as President of this Church to lead you
astray. It is not in the programme. It is not in the mind of God.
If I were to attempt that, the Lord would remove me out of my
place, and so He will any other man who attempts to lead the
children of men astray from the oracles of God and from their
duty. (Sixty-first Semiannual General Conference of the Church,
Monday, October 6, 1890, Salt Lake City, Utah. Reported in Deseret
Evening News, October 11, 1890, p. 2.) [Official Declaration 1]
Wilford had some historical precedent for what he was saying. In 1857, a similar idea was expressed by Brigham's brother stake patriarch John Young. It is not my desire or intention to
take up much time this morning; but I was desirous to bear my
testimony to the truth set forth by President Kimball, a man
filled with the Holy Ghost. I wonder if some one won't go away and
say that brother Kimball and the authorities were misinformed. I
can tell you they are not; for those men who stand at the head of
affairs have the light of heaven with them all the time; they have
the power of the Spirit and the visions of the heavens with them
always, and they can read men and women from head to foot. After
this, I don't want anybody to go away from the meeting and say, "I
guess they were mistaken." Don't let us hear any more of it,
brethren; never let such a thing be spoken, that a
Prophet of God is mistaken. I ask this congregation,
and I adjure you in the name of the Lord to speak, if ever you
heard brother Brigham, brother Kimball, brother Jedediah, or
brother Wells say anything that was not strictly true. I answer,
you never did.
[President H. C. Kimball: If it were so, a man might be a Prophet one minute and a devil another.] Isn't it interesting that Heber C. Kimball would interrupt John Young's talk to make this comment. We can judge from some of the many topics below as to whether they were all "strictly true" doctrines and positions. If there was any false concepts, does that make the leaders into devils? Brigham made a similar statement (if you ignore the "if" condition), but it was with Wilford's strong affirmation that this position became firmly embedded in the doctrine of the church. It was echoed by many others. Joseph F. Smith stated, “If any man
in that position should become unfaithful, God would remove him
out of his place.”(JD 24:192); Harold B. Lee tells us, “Never
would He permit one in this position to lead this church
astray.”(Teachings of Harold B. Lee, pp. 535-536); Joseph Fielding
Smith declared, “ Neither the President of the Church, nor the
First Presidency, nor the united voice of the First Presidency and
the Twelve will ever lead the Saints astray.”(General Conference,
April 1972); Heber J. Grant counseled, “The Lord will never let
his mouthpiece lead the people astray.”(Conference Report, Oct
1960, p. 78); Ezra Taft Benson tells us, “ Keep your eye on the
Prophet, for the Lord will never permit his Prophet to lead this
Church astray.”(General Conference, Oct. 1966); However Benson did
add this, "Let us live close to the Spirit, so we can test all
counsel." (General Conference, Oct. 1966)
Have the leaders of the LDS church ever led the Saints astray?Of course the LDS church can make policy changes and they have many times during their history. But do any of the changes affect doctrine, or could they be considered as evidence of leading the church astray. Some of the changes were later changed and discredited–which raises the question about the status of the earlier policy or doctrine.Can we verify that the Saints have never been led astray? Adam-GodBrigham Young
When our father Adam came into the
garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and
brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. He helped to make and
organize this world. He is MICHAEL, the Archangel, the ANCIENT
OF DAYS! about whom holy men have written and spoken—He is our
FATHER and our GOD, and the only God with whom WE have to do.
Every man upon the earth, professing Christians or
non-professing, must hear it, and will know it sooner or later.
(JD 1:50)
Spencer W. KimballWe hope that you who teach in the
various organizations, whether on the campuses or in our chapels,
will always teach the orthodox truth. We warn you against the
dissemination of doctrines which are not according to the
scriptures and which are alleged to have been taught by some of
the General Authorities of past generations. Such, for instance,
is the Adam-God theory. We denounce that theory and hope that
everyone will be cautioned against this and other kinds of false
doctrine. - President Spencer W. Kimball (General Conference,
October, 1976)
Blacks and the PriesthoodBrigham Young
"Any man having one drop of the
seed of Cane in him Cannot hold the priesthood ... I will say it
now in the name of Jesus Christ. I know it is true & they
know it. The Negro cannot hold one particle of Government ... if
any man mingles his seed with the seed of Cane the only way he
Could get rid of it or have salvation would be to Come forward
& have his head Cut off & spill his Blood upon the
ground. It would also take the life of his Children." (Wilford
Woodruff's Journal, Vol. 4, p. 97)
LDS.ORG There is no reliable evidence that
any black men were denied the priesthood during Joseph Smith’s
lifetime. . . In 1852, President Brigham Young publicly
announced that men of black African descent could no longer be
ordained to the priesthood . . . Over time, Church leaders and
members advanced many theories to explain the priesthood and
temple restrictions. None of these explanations is accepted
today as the official doctrine of the Church. . . . The
revelation rescinded the restriction on priesthood ordination.
It also extended the blessings of the temple to all worthy
Latter-day Saints, men and women. The First Presidency statement
regarding the revelation was canonized in the Doctrine and
Covenants as Official Declaration 2. . . . Soon after the
revelation, Elder Bruce R. McConkie, an apostle, spoke of new
“light and knowledge” that had erased previously “limited
understanding.”
(https://www.lds.org/topics/race-and-the-priesthood?lang=eng)
Blood AtonementBrigham Young
I could refer you
to plenty of instances where men, have been righteously slain, in
order to atone for their sins. I have seen scores and hundreds of
people for whom there would have been a chance (in the last
resurrection there will be) if their lives had been taken and
their blood spilled on the ground as a smoking incense to the
Almighty, but who are now angels to the devil, until our elder
brother Jesus Christ raises them up—conquers death, hell, and the
grave. I have known a great many men who have left this Church for
whom there is no chance whatever for exaltation, but if their
blood had been spilled, it would have been better for them. The
wickedness and ignorance of the nations forbid this principle's
being in full force, but the time will come when the law of God
will be in full force.
This is loving our neighbour as ourselves; if he needs help, help him; and if he wants salvation and it is necessary to spill his blood on the earth in order that he may be saved, spill it. Any of you who understand the principles of eternity, if you have sinned a sin requiring the shedding of blood, except the sin unto death, would not be satisfied nor rest until your blood should be spilled, that you might gain that salvation you desire. That is the way to love mankind. (JD 4:221) Mormon Church Statement, June 2010 However, so-called "blood
atonement," by which individuals would be required to shed their
own blood to pay for their sins, is not a doctrine of The Church
of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We believe in and teach the
infinite and all-encompassing atonement of Jesus Christ, which
makes forgiveness of sin and salvation possible for all people. Deseret
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